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Old 08-26-2012, 03:32 AM
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Default Transmission finally got me!

Driving my 3y.o. daughter home for the night after the birth of my second daughter yesterday...transmission starts BANGING at any speed over 15-20 MPH. Of course...it's while rolling thru a rather unpleasant neighborhood at 9pm.

I had to drive it to a better part of the city to be rescued by a friend. It's being towed to the dealership today.

08 Rogue SL AWD with 63k miles. Just had the trans oil drained & replaced for the 2nd time about a month or so ago!

*Hoping* it's covered under the extended warranty or I may be car shopping with a newborn!
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The warranty was extended to 120,000 miles. You shouldn't have any issues getting it covered. Was the service done at the dealer?
I have not seen many issues with the rogue transmissions. The most common thing I have seen is damage to the transmission cooler from being hit by debris from the road.
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:32 PM
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The trans oil changed were not done by the dealer. I do not like my local dealer's service dept and the only reason I had it towed there was because of the warranty. They charged my for AC dye test that was never performed and over-quoted the price and wouldn't show me a price breakdown. Local guy charged me 2/3s the price AND used genuine Nissan parts. He pointed out with a blacklight that a dye test was not done...and unnecessary considering the visible hole in the AC condenser.

After thinking about it more, I am not sure it is the transmission. There are no engine lights coming on, no warning lamps at all. The car drove absolutely fine except for the banging which got louder and faster with speed. I have lost a drive shaft from u-joint failure on a truck and it reminded me of that noise, but I didn't see that kind of issue when I looked underneath. No fluid leaks either...

After a quick search, I have noticed threads about Murano transfer cases grenading...I pray it's the transmission.

Anyway, it's at the dealership and I should know something tomorrow. Hopefully it's just a stupid magnet that let loose inside the trans...
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Even if you didn't change the transmission fluid at the dealer, as long you have some proof that you replaced the fluid at some point, it should be cover under warranty.
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Even if you didn't change the transmission fluid at the dealer, as long you have some proof that you replaced the fluid at some point, it should be cover under warranty.
The only reason I ask if it was done at a dealer is because nissan is very picky about what goes into the transmission. Anything other than the nissan ns-2 fluid voids the warranty. We have had a few come in with the wrong stuff and nissan will not cover them.
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Well, I'm screwed. My mechanic put in an anti-acidic additive that turned the NS-2 fluid slightly red. Nissan said no warranty replacement due to unapproved fluid. I now have to fight it out with the mechanic. The additive he put in was not relayed to me beforehand, nor does it appear on my bill of sale. Looks like I am going to have to get an attorney. I am sooo GD screwed.

I only turned to this mechanic because I had numerous poor service appointments and complaints against my local dealership's service. Nissan did nothing to try to resolve/amend my poor experiences, they just replaced the manager after a lot of poor service reviews and expected me to come running right back.

Rest assured, I will never buy another vehicle with a CVT and never another Nissan again.

I am looking at options for replacing this vehicle...even *IF* my mechanic eats the cost of a new transmission...which I highly doubt.
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Nothing wrong with the trans. Mechanic drove it all week with no repeat of symptoms. He drained & strained the fluid and found nothing. Refilled with only NS-2. Also pulled a pending speed sensor code off it. He said sensor had heavy salt corrosion so he removed and cleaned it and reinstalled.
I have done some research and Nissan has no claim to deny warranty service under the Magnuson-Moss Act of 1975. Nissan would have to prove that the additive directly caused the failure to void the warranty.

Bottom line is Poughkeepsie Nissan Service Advisors are lying scumbags...this is my second taste of this and will be the last.
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Angry CVT Problems.

Have you read the owners manual, You should have noticed that there is written.If you use any other fluid than NS 2 it will do damage to your transmission.
The problem is caused by using an additive which changed the friction between your belt and the pulleys.There are now very small metal particles in your oil caused by the slipping belt.These particles going trough your hydraulic control unit causing jamming from the valves. The only option is get it replaced or overhauled and take the mechanic to court so he have to pay for it.
He should fix it and claim it back from his business insurance.
For more info look at Welcome to CVT New Zealand 2010 Ltd.
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Have you read the owners manual, You should have noticed that there is written.If you use any other fluid than NS 2 it will do damage to your transmission.
The problem is caused by using an additive which changed the friction between your belt and the pulleys.There are now very small metal particles in your oil caused by the slipping belt.These particles going trough your hydraulic control unit causing jamming from the valves. The only option is get it replaced or overhauled and take the mechanic to court so he have to pay for it.
He should fix it and claim it back from his business insurance.
For more info look at Welcome to CVT New Zealand 2010 Ltd.
Not true in this case. Fluid was drained and strained. No particles. The additive was conditioner made for CVTs.
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CONTINUOUSLY VARIABLE
TRANSMISSION (CVT) FLUID
. Use only Genuine NISSAN CVT Fluid
NS-2. Do not mix with other fluids.
. Using transmission fluid other than
Genuine NISSAN CVT Fluid NS-2
will damage the CVT, which is not
covered by the NISSAN new vehicle
limited warranty.
When checking or replacement is required, we
recommend a NISSAN dealer for servicing.

Owner's manual page 8-11
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CONTINUOUSLY VARIABLE
TRANSMISSION (CVT) FLUID
. Use only Genuine NISSAN CVT Fluid
NS-2. Do not mix with other fluids.
. Using transmission fluid other than
Genuine NISSAN CVT Fluid NS-2
will damage the CVT, which is not
covered by the NISSAN new vehicle
limited warranty.
When checking or replacement is required, we
recommend a NISSAN dealer for servicing.

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Typical dealer scare-tactic. Car will be traded in on a BMW X1 before the month ends.
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I took the Rogue to another dealership for a once-over...conclusion is there's nothing wrong with the car at all. Everything hits specs and they even used a scope to see inside the transmission for excessive wear (the kind of scope they use to look up my sinuses...I forget the name), drained & refilled the trans again and inspected fluid, strained fluid and could not find any debris at all.

Bottom line is Poughkeepsie Nissan Service Dept is a total bunch of scumbags.

Complaint was filed against them through Nissan USA and the BBB for deceptive business practices.
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HA! I got the dreaded power-loss now. Car has NO acceleration after 30-45 mins of driving. Typical slipping trans symptom. Will drive to another dealership 30 minutes away for diagnosis and service (hopefully a trans replacement)...

Once cooled, the power-loss is not noticeable, but after driving for a while it barely starts from a dead stop.
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HA! I got the dreaded power-loss now. Car has NO acceleration after 30-45 mins of driving. Typical slipping trans symptom. Will drive to another dealership 30 minutes away for diagnosis and service (hopefully a trans replacement)...

Once cooled, the power-loss is not noticeable, but after driving for a while it barely starts from a dead stop.
Sounds like it is going into fail-safe mode... have you checked out these related issues as per this TSB?

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SERVICE INFORMATION A Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) is designed to go into fluid temperature protection logic mode ("fail-safe mode") if the CVT fluid temperature rises above a certain threshold. When the CVT goes into fail-safe mode, engine performance is reduced. Customers may report this condition as "low power" or "reduced engine performance". While the CVT is designed to go into fail-safe mode if the fluid temperature rises above the threshold, the following conditions may causethe CVT to go into fail-safe mode prematurely during normal vehicle operation: 1. Overfilled CVT fluid level. 2. Incorrect type of transmission fluid - Use Genuine Nissan NS-2 CVT fluid. 3. Incorrect coolant/water mix. See this bulletin (startingon page 2) for more detail on each of the above conditions.
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HA! I got the dreaded power-loss now. Car has NO acceleration after 30-45 mins of driving. Typical slipping trans symptom. Will drive to another dealership 30 minutes away for diagnosis and service (hopefully a trans replacement)...

Once cooled, the power-loss is not noticeable, but after driving for a while it barely starts from a dead stop.
The fluid may be too full. After driving for a few miles check the transmission fluid. It should be in the middle of the mark on the dipstick. If it is over filled it can cause similar issues.
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