does anyone know what the repair book time is to replace the 2 secondary chains and shoes?
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The TSB gives a time of 4.6 hours; I'm assuming this is a warranty time. ALLDATA shows a time of 8.9 hours to replace the timing chains plus another 0.4 hours to replace the guides.
When I purchased my 2006 LE, it had 84000 miles on it and I assumed by the Nissan red RTV silicone around the cover that the updated tensioners had been installed, which they were. At 98000 miles, I was driving when all of the sudden the timing chain started rattling badly. I'm assuming whoever did the job overtightened the bolts to the primary timing chain tensioner because one of them broke, causing the primary chain tensioner to pivot and the slack guide to fall back against the inside of the case. Fortunately, the chain didn't jump, but it did damage the primary tensioner and scored up the primary chain upper and slack guides and secondary chain tensioner shoes. I ended up installing a new set of upper tensioner shoes, secondary chains, primary tensioner and two of the primary chain's guides. Made sure I used a torque wrench on everything! Don't want to be doing that job again! Replaced the spark plugs and radiator while I was in there. |
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My 2007 Nissan was just diagnosed with the same problem. It has 49000 miles and is 3 weeks past the warranty period. I have spent a lot of time trying to convince Nissan to pay for the $1600 repair (calling cutomer service and the warranty department), but they keep telling me "if you had brought your vehicle to the dealer for servicing, they may have been able to determine the problem before the warranty ran out". I called Bullsh** on that one -- no where in the warranty does it say that you are required to get your vehicle serviced at the dealer AND there is a service bulletin out 2005-2007 timing chains in Xterras, so they KNEW there was a problem, and they don't even bother to notify the customers of a mechanical defect in their product. What lousy customer service - I certainly will NOT buy another Nissan. I guess once they get you out the door, they don't care if your vehicle lasts more than 50k or if you buy another one.
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I'm mentioned this elsewhere, I'm pretty sure, but for those who don't know: it's not the plastic tensioner "feet" that are the problem with the design. It's actually the links of the secondary timing chains that have sharp edges which are cutting into those plastic tensioner "feet." Nissan has updated the chains with rounder edges on the links to prevent this issue from re-occuring...we hope!
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2005 Pathfinder Off Road SE. 103,000. Started ticking about 5k ago. I thought it was a stuck lifter valve but 2 independent mechanics say they know that sound anywhere and that it's the dreaded timing chain issue. Neither wanted to touch the job so I took it to the dealer. After both independents quoted around $1600 the dealer called me and told me that it would be around $2600 because he wanted to change the oil pump and sprockets as well. Did I mention he came up with this before he even opened the engine up? I'm calling bshit and so I called Nissan. Still pending as to whether I will get help on this. If I don't get it fixed for free then Nissan can forget me or dozens of people I know as future customers. Unethical bastards.
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most dealers want to do no more than maintenance items/fluid changes, and tires just about anything beyond that is not as profitable, so you'll get a quote that will either be profitable for them should you authorize it, or chase you off as a customer so that you'll take it somewhere else |
The idea is to replace possible items while they are accessible. It will be cheaper to do it then, than if they have to go back in and do it later. Yes they make more money, but they will make even more if you have to go back and replace those items later.
In the end, it's your choice as to what all they do. Get a quote for just the main repair and make your decision based on the additional cost. |
I understand what you mean but if they're already in there, should it then cost $1000 more for an oil pump and sprockets? Seems like a lot for changing out those items when they are more easily accessible.
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Sounds like a lot to me.
Just make sure they aren't double dipping on labor. At 70K miles, I went ahead and changed the water pump, plugs, belts and tensioners, as well as the timing chain and its tensioners. |
Also, make sure you get all your old parts back to verify they actually changed them.
They can still give you somebody else's old parts. It is always good when you have a dealer you can trust. |
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I was just informed by the dealer that I need new timing shoes on my pathfinder 2005 80,000 miles that will be 1400 dollars please. I was going to buy a new Pathfinder but not sure now.
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